Breaking a habit...

[mattyjay]

For some time now I've been trying to increase my music collection the aim is to have such an imense libray of music on my itunes- and I've been doing this by buying second hand cds from an auction site- I'm now going to use this site instead of the other.

Also I'm a big reader and I'm going to try and use this site for finding interesting books.

Its strange as I've used the other site for many years but in order to support the community and sellers and consumers I'm going to make this site my first choice for those and other items :)

[DanTheMan3]

Good for you.

[mattyjay]

Thanks Dan.

Its not as easy as it seems as this site is still growing and doesn't yet have the same amount of products available but I'm sticking with it :)

[BAGHAG999]

Welcome Mattyjay, hope you find some bargains.

[cornishmaid1961]

For some time now I've been trying to increase my music collection the aim is to have such an imense libray of music on my itunes- and I've been doing this by buying second hand cds from an auction site- I'm now going to use this site instead of the other.

Also I'm a big reader and I'm going to try and use this site for finding interesting books.

Its strange as I've used the other site for many years but in order to support the community and sellers and consumers I'm going to make this site my first choice for those and other items :)
You will also get a reward for doing that by building up you own feedback and collecting buddy points! No site rewards for shopping on the other side! ;):D

[merlin]

well some people are still listing items here that are over priced compared to over there sorry but this means buyers leaving quicker to go back there one seller even has items 30p more here than on buy it now price over there ? whats the point in that ?

last week i needed postal sacks the ones on here were £1.00 more than over there when adding p&p etc. ?

IT`S SUPPOSED TO BE CHEAPER HERE LESS FV FEES NO LISTING FEES

IT MAKES ME MAD THAT I AM HAVING TO BUY FROM THERE

and before anyone starts saying it`s only a £1.00 when purchasing 500 mixed size sacks thats £10.00 saving

[meebo1]

Merlin, if I am doing this please ask my why. There may be a good reason, though can't think of one right now. And as far as I am concerned I am always willing to consider offers

[mattyjay]

well some people are still listing items here that are over priced compared to over there sorry but this means buyers leaving quicker to go back there one seller even has items 30p more here than on buy it now price over there ? whats the point in that ?

last week i needed postal sacks the ones on here were £1.00 more than over there when adding p&p etc. ?

IT`S SUPPOSED TO BE CHEAPER HERE LESS FV FEES NO LISTING FEES

IT MAKES ME MAD THAT I AM HAVING TO BUY FROM THERE

and before anyone starts saying it`s only a £1.00 when purchasing 500 mixed size sacks thats £10.00 saving

That is frustrating- I have noticed a few items cheaper over there than here- and for me it means looking on this site for another cheaper alternative.

I agree that as the fees here are lmost non-existent (except the 2% FVF) its strange that people don't list for cheaper- I know I have changed my listing to be cheaper over here and I plan to stick to that.

One thing I can think of is that maybe those sellers aren't having many sales here and so aren't paying much attention to this site as the other...

[klj]

I've been breaking the habit too Mattyjay. Buying on this site almost exclusively now.
I'm glad to see it growing everyday too. The more choices, the better the shopping! And hopefully we will see better prices too so Merlin can get his old bags here.:D

[moonwitch]

IT`S SUPPOSED TO BE CHEAPER HERE LESS FV FEES NO LISTING FEES



I don't understand that reasoning.

I sell at a fair price - if I don't pay fees it means more profit for me which goes to pay my rent.

Any SERIOUS retailer will buy cheap and sell at a higher profit - businesses are meant to make a profit - or am I missing something?

[stitchysyl]

well some people are still listing items here that are over priced compared to over there sorry but this means buyers leaving quicker to go back there one seller even has items 30p more here than on buy it now price over there ? whats the point in that ?

last week i needed postal sacks the ones on here were £1.00 more than over there when adding p&p etc. ?

IT`S SUPPOSED TO BE CHEAPER HERE LESS FV FEES NO LISTING FEES

IT MAKES ME MAD THAT I AM HAVING TO BUY FROM THERE

and before anyone starts saying it`s only a £1.00 when purchasing 500 mixed size sacks thats £10.00 saving


I understand what you are saying about items being cheaper over there...and why have them at a higher price here...and thats fair comment BUT theres no reason for them to be cheaper here.

The fees are supposed to be cheaper for the seller...and thus make selling more profitable here on eBid.

As long as the item is a fair price then thats all that the buyer is concerned with.

If you want to pass on some of your fees savings onto buyers then thats your choice, but not obligatory.

If I was a business with two bricks and mortar outlets, the price of my items would be based on the cost to buy the item and the mark up price etc....would not be based on how much the rent was.

[JudesNiceThings]

"IT`S SUPPOSED TO BE CHEAPER HERE LESS FV FEES NO LISTING FEES"

Who decreed that then?

My stuff is the same price wherever I sell it!

[merlin]

the way i look at selling is if your paying less fees then you could easily knock 8% off your price easily selling here as over there your paying to list lets say 20p + near 10% fvf that 8% could mean more sales and your still making more profit than over there thats business two of the people i have looked at here are also ps over there yet charge more to sell here how is that good for any business BUYERS ARE NOT STUPID THE CHEAPER THE BETTER

[merlin]

ANYONE CHARGING THE SAME PRICES OR MORE HERE DO NOT DESERVE TO SELL ANYTHING

power sellers obviously can cut costs more than small sellers can but everyone should be reducing prices a little as we all sell to make a profit but theres profit and sheer sillyness

[mattyjay]

the way i look at selling is if your paying less fees then you could easily knock 8% off your price easily selling here as over there your paying to list lets say 20p + near 10% fvf that 8% could mean more sales and your still making more profit than over there thats business two of the people i have looked at here are also ps over there yet charge more to sell here how is that good for any business BUYERS ARE NOT STUPID THE CHEAPER THE BETTER

I agree- it makes sense that if its cheaper for the seller to sell then it also makes sense to make the products cheaper - especially as Ebid is new - it needs cheaper products to encourage consumers.

When I sell items it refelcts the price making/creating it- the fee's of an auction site aslo play into this factor.

At the end of the day I believe if its cheaper for me to to sell- then I will reduce my prices.

[BabsnRay]

Matt
Good afternoon to you.

Good for you bring all your buying here too. I too have tried to do that, but like you find it difficult to get everything because the sellers we need haven't arrived yet.

We don't buy on the other side now either. What we've done and its something that may help you, is - if you know what you're looking for, fill in the 'form' from the wanted tab in your 'my ebid'. A few sellers and myself, have created a link from our sigg to the wanteds.

I've made a few sales by following someones wanted link, and you never know, someone may click onto it and have 'just the very thing' your looking for. It may be worth a try.

[moonwitch]

the way i look at selling is if your paying less fees then you could easily knock 8% off your price easily selling here as over there your paying to list lets say 20p + near 10% fvf that 8% could mean more sales and your still making more profit than over there thats business two of the people i have looked at here are also ps over there yet charge more to sell here how is that good for any business BUYERS ARE NOT STUPID THE CHEAPER THE BETTER

That might make sense if we all sold on feebay

If sellers here have REALLY broken the habit then they wouldn't compare the fees here with feebay.

I sell to make a profit - I just make LESS profit where the fees are higher as all my products are the same price wherever I sell, except on my own site, where I include a link to here where my prices are the same as I sell them for on other auction sites.

[BabsnRay]

ANYONE CHARGING THE SAME PRICES OR MORE HERE DO NOT DESERVE TO SELL ANYTHING

power sellers obviously can cut costs more than small sellers can but everyone should be reducing prices a little as we all sell to make a profit but theres profit and sheer sillyness


All of my listings are cheaper here than they were on the other side. The differences vary from 20p on the smaller items, to in some cases £2.

If we stayed where we were, we'd have had to double our prices to cover the increased fees, which wouldn't have been fair to the buyer - here at least the buyer can take advantage of the minimal listing fees the same as we can.

[mattyjay]

That might make sense if we all sold on feebay

If sellers here have REALLY broken the habit then they wouldn't compare the fees here with feebay.

I sell to make a profit - I just make LESS profit where the fees are higher as all my products are the same price wherever I sell, except on my own site, where I include a link to here where my prices are the same as I sell them for on other auction sites.

But we HAVE to compare with feebay as Ebid is a competitor- whenever in business you have to chek what your compeititors are doing- whether it be new products, prices or fees.

We are all trying to sell at a profit but the way I see it is that if list the same price as over on feebay that might discourage people, plus I'm new here and need to get some sales in.

Hi babs- thats not a bad idea- I think I will fill in the form and see what happens!

[merlin]

That might make sense if we all sold on feebay

If sellers here have REALLY broken the habit then they wouldn't compare the fees here with feebay.

I sell to make a profit - I just make LESS profit where the fees are higher as all my products are the same price wherever I sell, except on my own site, where I include a link to here where my prices are the same as I sell them for on other auction sites.

now that does not make sense
i work out my profit margins for each item on here and over there
and i know exactly how much each item i list here and over there i can make near the same profits off if i want to make £1.00 per item it don`t take a genius to work out the maths of listing fees and fvf on both sites also i take into account the payment method which 99% of time is paypal on both sites , i like my books balanced as even as possible for both sites ,

[moonwitch]

But we HAVE to compare with feebay as Ebid is a competitor- whenever in business you have to chek what your compeititors are doing- whether it be new products, prices or fees.


Feebay isn't my competitor

Feebay is one of Ebid's competitors

I am not in competition with anyone so I charge what I like

[moonwitch]

now that does not make sense
i work out my profit margins for each item on here and over there
and i know exactly how much each item i list here and over there i can make near the same profits off if i want to make £1.00 per item it don`t take a genius to work out the maths of listing fees and fvf on both sites also i take into account the payment method which 99% of time is paypal on both sites , i like my books balanced as even as possible for both sites ,

I see what you mean now

We work out our profit differently.

I have 2 figures to work with

1. My income from my sales and the rest of my business
(retail is only a very small part of my business)

2. My business expenses including all of my fees

Then I take 2 from 1 and that is my profit.

I work out my pricing by adding a markup to my wholesale price then list at that price wherever I trade.

I don't separate profits from different sites as I add all the amounts up for my business as a whole.

[mattyjay]

Feebay isn't my competitor

Feebay is one of Ebid's competitors

I am not in competition with anyone so I charge what I like

Everone has competitors- everyone that is selling a porduct or category similar to you, feebay is competition for ebid and for your store(s).

Your competitors are on this site, on other auction sites, on websites, on the high street and in markets.

We all have competitors- and having competitors is good for the consumer- it drives down prices and makes sellers work harder to make transcations a more pleasant exeperience.

[moonwitch]

Everone has competitors- everyone that is selling a porduct or category similar to you, feebay is competition for ebid and for your store(s).

Your competitors are on this site, on other auction sites, on websites, on the high street and in markets.

We all have competitors- and having competitors is good for the consumer- it drives down prices and makes sellers work harder to make transcations a more pleasant exeperience.

Depends on how you view life generally

My buyers choose to buy from me for their own reasons.

My products are listed the way I want to list them - I choose not to be competitive as I am not a competitive person.

If I lower my prices I wouldnt be able to pay my bills - so I list at whatever price I feel is fair and ignore what anyone else is doing.

[kengillam]

Common sense would seem to dictate that prices here have to be competetive with what can be found on Greedbay with a little incentive to get the buyers to make the move to here. But then I don't see a lot of common sense these days :D

Have people tried asking the sellers on here if they will price match, that would seem to be the way forward.

[raindropsies]

I only buy & sell on here.

When possible, 85% of the time, I look at what items are selling for on here and on feebay.

If I can undercut these prices then I do so. If I cannot I will list at the lowest price that I can. After all I cannot really afford to sell at a loss.

The only time I do not take prices into account from feebay & the big river is when it's books. I cannot sell a book for 1p and be happy

Now if I cannot find the product I want here, then I get it from a normal shop. I would rather do this and pay a bit more, as I detest buying from feebay. BUT I have asked feebay sellers if they could list an item here so I can buy it, but sadly none have taken this offer up. Obviously they don't want my custom.

For the record, I am currently after some official Tommee Tippee cups. But none on here, lots on feebay, and I have asked 3 sellers on feebay if they could list here and none have, Which is a shame as I want 2 pink ones & 2 blue ones. and at 3-4 pound a cup, thats £12-16 of sales excluding P&P that sellers have lost out on as I will have to get them from boots or mothercare.

[mattyjay]

Depends on how you view life generally

My buyers choose to buy from me for their own reasons.

My products are listed the way I want to list them - I choose not to be competitive as I am not a competitive person.

If I lower my prices I wouldnt be able to pay my bills - so I list at whatever price I feel is fair and ignore what anyone else is doing.

I don't think its a view on life... But I don't think we are making progress with this conversation.

Price match is an interesting an idea- would be great to something like that implemented.

[kengillam]

Just do it on an individual basis, message the seller.

[merlin]

Common sense would seem to dictate that prices here have to be competetive with what can be found on Greedbay with a little incentive to get the buyers to make the move to here. But then I don't see a lot of common sense these days :D

Have people tried asking the sellers on here if they will price match, that would seem to be the way forward.

i still use both sites plus a few others , obviously i cannot match a power sellers prices as they can buy bulk where as i buy what i can afford , but this does not mean that i will profiteer from people using this site as long as i make my small profit and give customers value for money that means more to me than making massive profits on here to subsidise my earnings on another site , if your selling the same items here as on wepay then by selling at the same price your buyers are not getting value for money here just does not make any sense to me after all i would sooner get 50 customers here making me a profit of £1.05 than 50 customers on wepay making me £1.00

[moonwitch]

Common sense would seem to dictate that prices here have to be competetive with what can be found on Greedbay with a little incentive to get the buyers to make the move to here. But then I don't see a lot of common sense these days :D

Have people tried asking the sellers on here if they will price match, that would seem to be the way forward.

Common sense and competitiveness are often mutually exclusive.

I see it a lot with people who sell their stuff for less than I can buy it at wholesale prices.

When I buy here I don't look to see who is selling the cheapest - I will look at how they market their products and at what else they are selling.

Sometimes a low price means the deal is too good to be true.

[BabsnRay]

The things we sell come into 2 groups -

Box rummages from our own things that we no longer need - so whatever it sells for is all profit less any listing fees and paypal fees (if applicable). This means I can afford to sell here cheaper than I did elsewhere. As we need the space, then I list them as what I feel is a suitable price.

Hand crafted items that are either gifts, doll clothes & accessories or home items. As all the components for these are bought in - fabric, lace, braid, ribbon, wadding, thread, machine needles etc, then the end product price is dependant on the cost to me of the components, listing fees, paypal fees, with a small mark up to cover my costs at this end ie electric etc. Again, if the listing fees are less, then I can afford to sell them at less.

At the end of the day I'd prefer to list an item at a cheaper price here and have it sell to a lesser circulation of buyers, than have it listed somewhere else for dearer and have it sit in the 'items for sale' section waiting for a buyer. Turnover is equally as important to me as profit - the more I can sell, the more feedback to use as advertising I get, the more sales I get. I makes sense to me the way I work things, and it works for me.

[BAGHAG999]

My prices are cheaper here than what i charge on feebay,having said that
i cant compete against the bulk buyers with price,so no doubt you will probally find cheaper than what i can sell here.
But i wont compromise on quality.
But trying to make a full time living out of it is a bit of a struggle i think for most sellers.

[merlin]

My prices are cheaper here than what i charge on feebay,having said that
i cant compete against the bulk buyers with price,so no doubt you will probally find cheaper than what i can sell here.
But i wont compromise on quality.
But trying to make a full time living out of it is a bit of a struggle i think for most sellers.

i am lucky as although i`m a business it is still only a hobby to me
but it is hard making money on any site you list on (i still cannot understand why i cannot sell my jeans here yet selling between 10 - 20 pairs a week over there ?) yet they a bit cheaper here ,

if i had to make a full time living doing this i would give up i not seen any wages yet in 3 months lol

i cannot compete with massive bulk buyers but hopefully my service outweighs thiers as i can still get items packed and posted within a day 99% of time